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LLoyd Thomson
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Posted - 2011.04.26 10:41:00 -
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 Originally by: Kronir
Assuming
... is not really a scientific word.
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LLoyd Thomson
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Posted - 2011.04.26 11:47:00 -
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Originally by: Kronir
Originally by: LLoyd Thomson
Originally by: Kronir
Assuming
... is not really a scientific word.
When you're talking about consciousness, the only word you can use is assuming. It's not a fixed science.
I object, because cloning body and mind is science in a very pure form.
Also by your reasoning a man with a head trauma is not the same man than before his accident, because his consciousness was altered.
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LLoyd Thomson
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Posted - 2011.04.26 11:52:00 -
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Originally by: War Kitten
Helllooooo.... reality calling here....
Nobody knows the real answer, why are you debating what the answer is in a game?
Quick, someone from CCP's *FICTION* writing team, make something up for these nuts.
Shut up and post some random "can I have your stuff" elsewhere.
If you don't like the discussion here, stop reading it.
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LLoyd Thomson
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Posted - 2011.04.26 11:57:00 -
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Originally by: War Kitten
Originally by: LLoyd Thomson
Originally by: War Kitten
Helllooooo.... reality calling here....
Nobody knows the real answer, why are you debating what the answer is in a game?
Quick, someone from CCP's *FICTION* writing team, make something up for these nuts.
Shut up and post some random "can I have your stuff" elsewhere.
If you don't like the discussion here, stop reading it.
But I do like it - I'm getting quite a chuckle out of reading it all.
My contribution is just pointing out the obvious flaws in everyone's arguments.
CCP already gave the answer to this. So again: shut up.
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LLoyd Thomson
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Posted - 2011.04.26 12:22:00 -
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Originally by: Kacer Xenro
Interesting topic.
I agree with the person who wrote the stuff about your conciousness being a continous stream.
Then read up on William James.
Originally by: Kacer Xenro
I mean, your clone is just a copy of you, which means that in theory you can activate a clone without really being dead.
Yes of course. The Broker did it in one of the books.
Originally by: Kacer Xenro
so if your conciousness was being transplanted as well, it would mean you would have two conciousnesses, no?
I don't think so. Every stream can be suspended (the human brain through electrical stimuli) and splited (think of a river stream). If you split a stream both streams continue to flow and are not impeeded or affected by the other. If you destroy one of those streams is up to you. In EVE the human body in the POD is killed.
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LLoyd Thomson
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Posted - 2011.04.26 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: Resmand Fredricks
The problem in my humble opinion is that the Clone does not experience anything until it is activated and typically you can't activate the clone until you die. Ergo no stimuli. Is person a person because the person says so or because its a person?
Technically it is of course possible, but the EVE lore says it is forbidden by the law to have an activated clone of my own.
For the clones sake, I'm glad that he does not experience anything, because when I die, the machinery would overwrite his personality (his memories, experience, ...) with mine and wipe him completly out.
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